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I just looked at the discussion for the first time in a couple of days, and was stunned to see that Florida State has given people a deadline of February 29th. This is a blatant violation of the agreement that all schools (including FSU) made with the Council of Graduate Schools. I can assure you that the department will be informed of this shortly. It is likely a mistake, by a new admissions person who doesn't know about the agreement, and will be rectified shortly.
In the meantime, you should accept the offer before the 29th, even if you have no intention of going, and then withdraw on April 15th (but not before). If they want to play games like that, we can play right back. If it isn't rectified soon, there will likely be sanctions placed on their department by the council.
In the meantime, you should accept the offer before the 29th, even if you have no intention of going, and then withdraw on April 15th (but not before). If they want to play games like that, we can play right back. If it isn't rectified soon, there will likely be sanctions placed on their department by the council.
Electricity to the whole department will be turned off, and one admissions committee member will be executed by firing squad every week until they fix their policies.
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@ VT
Lots of students with GREs in the 700s have applied to top schools, including some of the ones you mentioned.
To verify this, do an "edit-find" serch in the profile thread for "P: 7" and it will take you to all the users who scored in the 700s. Then see where they applied to. Many of them applied to top schools, and grae313 has already been accepted to Cornell.
Lots of students with GREs in the 700s have applied to top schools, including some of the ones you mentioned.
To verify this, do an "edit-find" serch in the profile thread for "P: 7" and it will take you to all the users who scored in the 700s. Then see where they applied to. Many of them applied to top schools, and grae313 has already been accepted to Cornell.
Nevermind the whole edit-find idea, it's just as easy to scroll down yourself and look at the GRE scores.
Since most of these schools have GRE averages in the 880 range, it must be true that lots of people in the 700s get accepted. Of course, they probably need something really special... like a sole authored publication ... how the hell did u do that? hehe
Since most of these schools have GRE averages in the 880 range, it must be true that lots of people in the 700s get accepted. Of course, they probably need something really special... like a sole authored publication ... how the hell did u do that? hehe
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I like quizivex's idea about firing squads. Better yet, just remove all coffee machines. We all know a theoretical physicist is a machine for turning coffee into equations. Actually, I don't know what the sanctions would be, although the Council would probably pass a "naughty-naughty" resolution, and could urge member schools to suggest that their students not apply there. The publicity won't be good.
I suspect it's a mistake, or a badly worded letter (i.e. "we would very much like to hear by the 29th of February" is not the same as "your offer will be withdrawn if you don't give us a final answer by the 29th of February"). An appropriate person at FSU has already been informed and they will check on Monday. If it isn't a mistake or a badly worded letter, this will go to the chair, then the dean, then the provost---the policy will be changed. If necessary, the APS will get involved, but that is unlikely.
I suspect it's a mistake, or a badly worded letter (i.e. "we would very much like to hear by the 29th of February" is not the same as "your offer will be withdrawn if you don't give us a final answer by the 29th of February"). An appropriate person at FSU has already been informed and they will check on Monday. If it isn't a mistake or a badly worded letter, this will go to the chair, then the dean, then the provost---the policy will be changed. If necessary, the APS will get involved, but that is unlikely.
I have read all the discussion about my post about my FSU acceptance and I appreciate all the feedback and advices. But now I have to apologize for skipping (not on purpose) important information while reading FSU's acceptance mail and making you believe FSU didn't have a good reason to ask for such a fast reply. I freaked out so bad with the deadline I couldn't gather any other important info that was there besides the deadline. They may be right about the fact that I have to make my decision by February 29th. I'm an international student and they have another reason besides their budget constrains that makes much more sense:
"Due to serious budget constraints within the University we would appreciate your acceptance or rejection of our offer as soon as possible, but no later than February 29, 2008. As we expect delays of up to six months in obtaining a visa, please be advised that we may not be able to complete the necessary paperwork in time for you to join our program if you delay your decision until after this date. Hence, if we do not hear from you by this date we will assume that you have decided to go elsewhere."
Now that made me think if I don't get replies from the other programs I applied before March then I won't be able to get a visa in time for the fall term. Is there any other international student out there that had/has to deal with the same kind of pressure?
"Due to serious budget constraints within the University we would appreciate your acceptance or rejection of our offer as soon as possible, but no later than February 29, 2008. As we expect delays of up to six months in obtaining a visa, please be advised that we may not be able to complete the necessary paperwork in time for you to join our program if you delay your decision until after this date. Hence, if we do not hear from you by this date we will assume that you have decided to go elsewhere."
Now that made me think if I don't get replies from the other programs I applied before March then I won't be able to get a visa in time for the fall term. Is there any other international student out there that had/has to deal with the same kind of pressure?
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We accept plenty of international students and have not had a single one fail to get a visa in time (although one from Russia arrived a few days late). I don't see why things are different now. The last sentence of the paragraph seems to be a pretty clear violation.
Again, if you're still waiting on other schools, accept the offer on the 29th, and then if you get into another place, just withdraw. What can they do?
Again, if you're still waiting on other schools, accept the offer on the 29th, and then if you get into another place, just withdraw. What can they do?
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schandre:
It never takes 6 months to get a visa. That is utter bullshit. I am an international student myself( I am in the US now,) and it took me only 15 days to get my visa. No matter where you are from, it will never take you 6 months to get the visa. FSU should cut the crap up.
Jus tell them you accept their offer now and deny it later once you have more offers. No one can do anything.
It never takes 6 months to get a visa. That is utter bullshit. I am an international student myself( I am in the US now,) and it took me only 15 days to get my visa. No matter where you are from, it will never take you 6 months to get the visa. FSU should cut the crap up.
Jus tell them you accept their offer now and deny it later once you have more offers. No one can do anything.
All I was saying is that many top schools list the GRE score of their average admitted applicant. This tends to be around 880. By elementary statistical analysis, it is very likely that there must be just as many students who are accepted with scores in the 700s as there are 990s out there!VT wrote:I did not understand this sentence
I think aanaa is female, so I wouldn't get your hopes up from her story alone, but plenty of male applicants in the 700s get accepted too... just browse last year's threads.
FALL 2008 acceptances
Admissionprof,
Just curious. How do School A know that you have accepted the offer of School B?
In the case of the person who got offer from FSU, you suggest him to accept the offer and can decline later. But wouldn't other schools that he apply know about this somehow (may be there is a common share student list between schools), and decide not to offer him because they think the student will go to FSU instead.
Do you have an idea? Of course, I think it is very unlikely school A will know, but just in case.
Just curious. How do School A know that you have accepted the offer of School B?
In the case of the person who got offer from FSU, you suggest him to accept the offer and can decline later. But wouldn't other schools that he apply know about this somehow (may be there is a common share student list between schools), and decide not to offer him because they think the student will go to FSU instead.
Do you have an idea? Of course, I think it is very unlikely school A will know, but just in case.
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schandre, which american embassy will you apply to for a visa...like I know if you apply to the US embassy/consulates in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia the process takes longer though it shouldnt drag on for 6 months..i think when i applied for a visa for my undergrad 4 yrs ago it took me around 3-4 weeks..usually the embassy you apply at gives you a good estimate when you will get your passport back
Hello Admissionprof,
My profile is given below:
Undergrad Institution: a famous school in India
Major(s): BE (major: Electronics & Communication Engg)
Graduate: MS in Applied Physics from a good university in US(2008).
grad GPA in Physics: ~ 3.9
Overall grad GPA: ~ 3.7
Type of Student: International (currently in US)
GRE Scores:
Q: 800 (92%)
V: 590 (82%)
Physics GRE: 620 (40%) ....It sucks!!
TOEFL Total: not reqd as i'll have an MS
Research Experience: 2 years research experiences
Publications: 2 conference proceedings and 1 journal papers.
Awards/Honors/Recognitions:Fellowships from a US university and from a very famous Indian University
Pertinent Activities or Jobs: 2 years research experience with conference and publications
Special Bonus Points: I have finished almost all the required graduate courses for theoretical physics and I've good reco letters 2 of which taken from professors of US university
Applying to Where: PhD in Theoretical particle physics/Theoretical high energy
Upenn - Department - Research Interest - Result
UVA - Department - Research Interest - Result
UGA - Department - Research Interest - Result
NYU - Department - Research Interest - Result
Syracuse - Department - Research Interest - Result
UCDavis - Department - Research Interest - Result
How much would be the effect of Physics GRE on my whole profile for these schools
My profile is given below:
Undergrad Institution: a famous school in India
Major(s): BE (major: Electronics & Communication Engg)
Graduate: MS in Applied Physics from a good university in US(2008).
grad GPA in Physics: ~ 3.9
Overall grad GPA: ~ 3.7
Type of Student: International (currently in US)
GRE Scores:
Q: 800 (92%)
V: 590 (82%)
Physics GRE: 620 (40%) ....It sucks!!
TOEFL Total: not reqd as i'll have an MS
Research Experience: 2 years research experiences
Publications: 2 conference proceedings and 1 journal papers.
Awards/Honors/Recognitions:Fellowships from a US university and from a very famous Indian University
Pertinent Activities or Jobs: 2 years research experience with conference and publications
Special Bonus Points: I have finished almost all the required graduate courses for theoretical physics and I've good reco letters 2 of which taken from professors of US university
Applying to Where: PhD in Theoretical particle physics/Theoretical high energy
Upenn - Department - Research Interest - Result
UVA - Department - Research Interest - Result
UGA - Department - Research Interest - Result
NYU - Department - Research Interest - Result
Syracuse - Department - Research Interest - Result
UCDavis - Department - Research Interest - Result
How much would be the effect of Physics GRE on my whole profile for these schools
multigoal, you've already applied. There is nothing you can do now but wait.
my opinion (you asked for it):
your PGRE score is absolutely terrible for someone who already has a MS in physics. there is no way you should have all of that experience and still score worse than almost half the people who took the test. I'll be surprised if you get into any of those schools.
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I'm new to this forum and so, hi. About the above comments, I don't know if you were being sarcastic (it's hard to tell on the internet), but those comments were some of the bitchiest things I've heard in a long time-especially coming from somebody in a good vantage point (being accepted to great schools, etc.)
Some people are just bad test takers, or don't do well under time constraints-oh, i don't know, like those imposed on the PGRE... Maybe instead of making fun of somebody who probably worked his/her ass off, you should take a minute and think before you speak.
Personally, I think that if you've done well in your classes and you've done research and shown some initiative, good letters, etc., the admissions commitee should take your score in perspective. And, hey, if not, you can always try again next year-no biggie. You've gotten a lot farther than a lot of people by getting your master's, that fact alone proves that you know something. So *** the PGRE. Good luck with your applications.
Some people are just bad test takers, or don't do well under time constraints-oh, i don't know, like those imposed on the PGRE... Maybe instead of making fun of somebody who probably worked his/her ass off, you should take a minute and think before you speak.
Personally, I think that if you've done well in your classes and you've done research and shown some initiative, good letters, etc., the admissions commitee should take your score in perspective. And, hey, if not, you can always try again next year-no biggie. You've gotten a lot farther than a lot of people by getting your master's, that fact alone proves that you know something. So *** the PGRE. Good luck with your applications.
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stardote, welcome to the forum and please post your profile if you've applied this year...
As far as the above comments, are you oblivious to the fact that this multigoal nuisance has plastered his damn profile all over the forum 6 times and the rest of us are sick of seeing it?
We therefore will not hesitate to tell him he has pitifully bad chance of ever being accepted anywhere...
I dunno, RG, I'd rather get raped by goodfromfar
As far as the above comments, are you oblivious to the fact that this multigoal nuisance has plastered his damn profile all over the forum 6 times and the rest of us are sick of seeing it?
We therefore will not hesitate to tell him he has pitifully bad chance of ever being accepted anywhere...
I dunno, RG, I'd rather get raped by goodfromfar
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no worries stardote. I was pissed with multigoal for posting his damn profile everywhere and I have no problem with his GRE score coz I am also with him/her and you to say *** THE ETS, *** THE PGRE.
Grae I need those rolling smileys when I am laughing my ass off.
THIS is so hilarious. hahahahaahmultigoal nuisance has plastered his damn profile all over the forum 6 times and the rest of us are sick of seeing it?
Grae I need those rolling smileys when I am laughing my ass off.
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Multigoal--
Let's see. You have a bachelors in engineering, you have a masters in Applied Physics, and now you want to do theoretical physics ??? And with a masters, you just got a 40th percentile on the GRE? Get real. Your English also isn't very good. If you're at a good US university, why don't you stay where you are?
I suggest applying to schools ranked between 100 and 150.
Plus, you have been annoying a lot of people. People who annoy people have trouble in graduate school---maybe that's why you want to leave.
Please don't post your profile again.
P.S. How do you know your reco letters are good? You aren't supposed to see them.
P.P.S. Uh, why Georgia? They don't have theoretical particle physics. Maybe you need to research the schools you're applying to.
Let's see. You have a bachelors in engineering, you have a masters in Applied Physics, and now you want to do theoretical physics ??? And with a masters, you just got a 40th percentile on the GRE? Get real. Your English also isn't very good. If you're at a good US university, why don't you stay where you are?
I suggest applying to schools ranked between 100 and 150.
Plus, you have been annoying a lot of people. People who annoy people have trouble in graduate school---maybe that's why you want to leave.
Please don't post your profile again.
P.S. How do you know your reco letters are good? You aren't supposed to see them.
P.P.S. Uh, why Georgia? They don't have theoretical particle physics. Maybe you need to research the schools you're applying to.
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RG. Sorry, I don't understand your first question. For the second---I read the profile: "2 of which taken...", "1 journal papers", "Engg", didn't take TOEFL (it usually is required for admission to a grad program), the phrase "famous university" is never used by native English speakers, but often by non-native English speakers, etc. It really doesn't matter though--if I were concerned about his English, I'd just call him.
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@ RG
Did someone hack your account? Why are you nagging admissionprof about his positive opinions of you? You should feel honored.
RG, you are the second most targeted guy on the forum behind myself. You must keep your allies close or we're doomed. (maybe doom himself will attack)
As for multigoal's poor English, this is apparent because there are grammar errors in every line of his profile. Even after rewriting his profile 6 times, he hasn't corrected them. There's no hope for him.
Oh geez, VT posted a sad face... looks like that sense of hope I gave him yesterday has diminished.
In the news this hour, the physics building at FSU has been burnt to the ground by vigilantes that call themselves the 415's...
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Did someone hack your account? Why are you nagging admissionprof about his positive opinions of you? You should feel honored.
This was written the same day your "fond of RG" poll was the highlight of the forum. admissionprof praised you from another thread and that's why he said "whoops, wrong thread."Cheers, (and I like RG--whoops, wrong thread).
RG, you are the second most targeted guy on the forum behind myself. You must keep your allies close or we're doomed. (maybe doom himself will attack)
As for multigoal's poor English, this is apparent because there are grammar errors in every line of his profile. Even after rewriting his profile 6 times, he hasn't corrected them. There's no hope for him.
Once we start talking about those kinds of schools, we should be counting their rank from the bottom (bottom 50, bottom 20 etc...). Thanks.I suggest applying to schools ranked between 100 and 150.
Oh geez, VT posted a sad face... looks like that sense of hope I gave him yesterday has diminished.
In the news this hour, the physics building at FSU has been burnt to the ground by vigilantes that call themselves the 415's...
That'd be a depressing place to be a physics grad student.How can you possibly hold classes with only 1 graduate stduent?
131??? If this were really her name then we missed her birthday by 18 days... terrible. Or maybe she chose 313 because it's prime... oh wait 131 is prime too... ugh... time for bedfermiboy wrote:grae131,
sounds to me like they are going to accept you. congrats. If I was you I would rather go to Cornell though.
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lol...Plus, you have been annoying a lot of people. People who annoy people have trouble in graduate school---maybe that's why you want to leave.
Please don't post your profile again.
Apparently our criticism is so infectious that even professors are joining. Thank Garden for the cloak of anonymity provided by the internet.
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