shalacked again...
-
- Posts: 482
- Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:30 pm
-
- Posts: 482
- Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:30 pm
-
- Posts: 482
- Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:30 pm
- butsurigakusha
- Posts: 293
- Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:05 pm
- butsurigakusha
- Posts: 293
- Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:05 pm
- butsurigakusha
- Posts: 293
- Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:05 pm
shalacked again...
I think most schools start to accept people around Feb 2#, which means still 2 weeks of silence. That suck!
-
- Posts: 24
- Joined: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:47 pm
-
- Posts: 24
- Joined: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:47 pm
-
- Posts: 369
- Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:50 pm
"You shouldn't - the open houses are awesome. Free vacations...I loved my trips."
As an admissions director at a top 50 (but not top 20) department, I was unhappy to see this comment (and the subsequent comment with a "wink").
It is unethical to visit an institution that you have no intention of attending. Period.
Each visitor can cost over $500, and they take a lot of time (especially at places that allow individual visits). Graduate schools (with a few exceptions) aren't wealthy, and we'd rather use our money for other things, like graduate student stipends. To take our time and money so that you can have a "free vacation" is, frankly, despicable. It is also unfair to the many students on waiting lists who don't know what their future is until those who know they aren't coming make it official.
Please, people, if you get into a place that you would definitely prefer to a place that you've already been accepted, then tell the place lower on your list right away. Taking their money for a free vacation, and waiting weeks to tell them, is morally reprehensible.
As an admissions director at a top 50 (but not top 20) department, I was unhappy to see this comment (and the subsequent comment with a "wink").
It is unethical to visit an institution that you have no intention of attending. Period.
Each visitor can cost over $500, and they take a lot of time (especially at places that allow individual visits). Graduate schools (with a few exceptions) aren't wealthy, and we'd rather use our money for other things, like graduate student stipends. To take our time and money so that you can have a "free vacation" is, frankly, despicable. It is also unfair to the many students on waiting lists who don't know what their future is until those who know they aren't coming make it official.
Please, people, if you get into a place that you would definitely prefer to a place that you've already been accepted, then tell the place lower on your list right away. Taking their money for a free vacation, and waiting weeks to tell them, is morally reprehensible.
Gimme a break. Schools rake in tons of money in application fees and let in only a small percentage of the students that apply.
The entire reason that the school offers the visitation is so they can try to sell you the program when you get there. Saying it's morally reprehensible to go with no intension of attending is like saying it's morally reprehensible to watch TV while changing channels during the commercials.
What is the purpose of the visit, anyway? To try to convince students to go who otherwise might not want to. The trip is essentially an adverstisment for the department. If you're going to advertise you have to spend money, that is a fact of life. Not everyone will buy your product (read: attend your school).
"OMG you went to Florida but you didn't buy the timeshare? Those people wasted four hours with you... how reprehensible!!..."
The entire reason that the school offers the visitation is so they can try to sell you the program when you get there. Saying it's morally reprehensible to go with no intension of attending is like saying it's morally reprehensible to watch TV while changing channels during the commercials.
What is the purpose of the visit, anyway? To try to convince students to go who otherwise might not want to. The trip is essentially an adverstisment for the department. If you're going to advertise you have to spend money, that is a fact of life. Not everyone will buy your product (read: attend your school).
"OMG you went to Florida but you didn't buy the timeshare? Those people wasted four hours with you... how reprehensible!!..."
admissionprof, I'm sorry to have offended you, but there was sarcasm intended in my post, hence the wink...
I don't know if you read the whole thread, but someone made the statement that they would throw out all other schools for one single school that they may not have ever visited. I think that if you encourage that, that's morally despicale. Judging by your said past, however, you wouldn't encourage such a thing.
And, admissionprof, considering I've been posting here for years, I think the people here generally understand my demeaner, as I get PMs quite often. Please, at least question the nature of someone's statement before you decide you understand what was said and tear the person apart.
I don't know if you read the whole thread, but someone made the statement that they would throw out all other schools for one single school that they may not have ever visited. I think that if you encourage that, that's morally despicale. Judging by your said past, however, you wouldn't encourage such a thing.
And, admissionprof, considering I've been posting here for years, I think the people here generally understand my demeaner, as I get PMs quite often. Please, at least question the nature of someone's statement before you decide you understand what was said and tear the person apart.
-
- Posts: 369
- Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:50 pm
You misunderstood my point. If there is even a small chance that you might attend a school, then by all means you should go on the visit. My post was based on those who know with certainty that they will not attend an institution, and yet they go on the visit anyway in order to get a free vacation. I think that is morally wrong. You are free to disagree.
-
- Posts: 369
- Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:50 pm
I understood your point and I agreed with it. I don't think anyone would go on a visiting weekend for a vacation, as not only is it morally wrong, but the trips usually seem to come in the busiest parts of the semester. I only went on two myself, and it was extremely hectic. Besides, I wouldn't call a 2-3 day trip of interviews and tours much of a vacation anyway. My point in my last point, again, was that I was kidding around.
I got an email today. It was from a professor who wanted to look at my CV. I never get emails from Berkeley. I'm going to send them a letter complaining:
"Dear Berkeley,
Although I did not apply to your insitution I would appreciate it if you would notify me in a timely manner as to whether or not I am accepted to your program. I have been waiting for several weeks now and I have not heard from you. Unless you inform me differently I will assume, starting now, that I have been accepted to your insitution. Thanks for the acceptance. However, because I have already accepted an offer from Harvard I will be forced to accept unless you are willing to make a generous counter-offer.
Yours in Physics,
twistor"
"Dear Berkeley,
Although I did not apply to your insitution I would appreciate it if you would notify me in a timely manner as to whether or not I am accepted to your program. I have been waiting for several weeks now and I have not heard from you. Unless you inform me differently I will assume, starting now, that I have been accepted to your insitution. Thanks for the acceptance. However, because I have already accepted an offer from Harvard I will be forced to accept unless you are willing to make a generous counter-offer.
Yours in Physics,
twistor"
so i got an email today with subject "application status." it said thanks for your application to uc irvine, your application has been received and is being evaluated.
why would they send me an email now about that? i totally thought it was an acceptance/rejection, not a statement of the obvious. especially since my materials were in by december
why would they send me an email now about that? i totally thought it was an acceptance/rejection, not a statement of the obvious. especially since my materials were in by december