zxcv wrote:By my own standard of "cite solutions you use" I did nothing wrong. I'm done arguing about this.
I'm not claiming I haven't made mistakes -- with rare exceptions, nobody is 100% pure.
But I still think legitimate distinctions can be made between borderline and definitely not okay behavior. (Not citing a source on a problem set may actually be a broader-line case, as you guys point out.) Some behavior is definitely NOT okay, and to me would indicate a breech of ethics. Copying someone else's work directly and without citation is one of those, and we all know that.
Sorry to continue this conversation, but I think you are missing the point. The only REAL litmus test for something being cheating is what the Professor teaching the class THINKS. So, you should have asked the professor if your actions were acceptable; if he said yes, then I don't see a problem. If he said no, then regardless of what I think or you think, it is not okay. Maybe other people disagree with me, but I think anything should be fair game as long as the teacher agrees to it. zxcv, do you think the professor would approve of your actions? I am not judging; I know I have done things in a few classes that the professor would not approve of.
With this in mind, several posts back I asked for more details about what happened in the case of the OP. I think it matters, as I still don't understand what the OP did. Let me give you an example; a friend of mine pulled an all nighter on a paper and made a couple citation errors. Although he did try to cite the source material, he did not use proper MLA citation format (it was a humanities class). The professor wanted to fail the guy for the paper, which was 50% of class grade so he would have failed the class (for what I consider to be an offense that can be overlooked or simply deduct points for). If you disagree with my assessment, I guess my example means nothing to you. However, I point out that I did the same thing with a different humanities professor, and my professor simply ignored the transgression; he did not even deduct points, but pointed out the correct MLA citation format.
Now, it all worked out. My friend explained that he was a science major and had not written a humanities paper in years so he forgot the proper citation method. However, lets say it hadn't. Several posts back, admissionprof said that any F would set off red flags and require a call to the professor. I strongly believe that the professor would have (or at least could have) found a way to convince admissionprof that some serious plagiarism had taken place. Furthermore, I think the situation would be worse at a top ten school who have too many good applicants to take the chance. All it takes is one jackass who has it out for you.